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The Last Stand

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Let me give you the state of the race today. We have 22 days to go. We’re 6 points down. The national media has written us off. Senator Obama is measuring the drapes, and planning with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid to raise taxes, increase spending, take away your right to vote by secret ballot in labor elections, and concede defeat in Iraq. But they forgot to let you decide. My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.

What America needs in this hour is a fighter; someone who puts all his cards on the table and trusts the judgment of the American people. I come from a long line of McCains who believed that to love America is to fight for her. I have fought for you most of my life. There are other ways to love this country, but I’ve never been the kind to do it from the sidelines.”

Where to start?

1. I’m a conservative. I want McCain to win, based upon my value system, and the fact that things around me are already far too liberal. It makes me want to go kick a puppy or something, and assert my right-wingedness.

2. I’m a realist, I don’t think that McCain will win. Obama has had the media sucking from the teat of the most attractive candidate since JFK. Mainstream media is decidedly against McCain, and since they control the information that the public see, there’s little hope.

3. I admire McCain for all that he’s done. Being a fellow Naval Academy grad, that’s enough for me to respect him. I’m not one to underestimate anyone, but I doubt Obama would have lasted the first week of Plebe summer, not to mention Dark Tuesday. The Golden Boy would have found out that he’s not so golden at all, at least for a few years (if he made it). Then he probably would have been made into the poster child of the Navy.

4. A friend of mine has been insisting to me that McCain’s time being tortured is not relevant to his qualifications as President. Does this make someone automatically qualified? Nope, the years of senior Senatorial work helps. But to suggest the fact that the man turned down release, knowing that he would be brutally tortured even more lends him some credibility in my eyes. Anyone who thinks otherwise just simply isn’t worth my time, because they’ll never get it.

5. This is undoubtedly “The Last Stand”.  Regrettably, this is as determined as I’ve ever seen the media to quash it. To me, it’ll be one of the great mysteries of my life how someone with so little practical experience leading or in government, with such disturbing historical ties, and with such extremist views (Universal healthcare + income redistribution EQUALS communism; It’s that simple. Open your eyes.) will be elected over a literally battle hardened, experienced leader, who just might be able to bring us back to the free-market days that we were founded on. Americans have proven just how stupid they really are. He’s handsome, and he has a rich baritone voice. He makes me get all tingly. He’s got my vote.  Look at McCain.  He’s old and crinkly.  Gross.

*note – to all you liberals out there who really think all that stuff (the communism stuff, that is) is a good idea… well… that’s up to you I suppose. All that I ask is that you don’t vote for someone because you’re infatuated with him, which is what most of my generation has become.


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October 14, 2008 at 3:37 am

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  1. Nope. I actually was really anti-Obama for a while. I’m with you on McCain’s record and his character- he is an amazing man. I completely understood his frustration when he called Obama “that one” in the last debate–here he is, and he’s proven himself so many times, and done so much, and here’s the young trendy pup seeking to unseat him.

    Unfortunately, that’s still not enough to convince me that he would make change in America with the team he’s got right now. And I am uncomfortable with his clear discomfort when it comes to economics (although he is apparently putting out a new fiscal policy to counter Obama’s today). I suppose I would feel better about it if I felt that he surrounded himself with the right people to help him with the right answers, but the Palin pick has led me to believe otherwise.

    I will readily admit that McCain’s age is also a big factor for me. If he was younger and hadn’t already had cancer four times, I would be less frightened about Sarah Palin ascending to the Presidency. This scares me so much that I want to throw up just thinking about it.

    I’ve actually felt like both candidates have been completely underwhelming, but given my current understanding of both campaigns, I think I’m 95% Obama.

    Communism/socialism- yes, either would suck. But will universal health care for children- children only- and income redistribution (what does this mean- taxing the rich? I’m not entirely comfortable with this, especially not if it involves small businesses, but I suppose anything but the current paradigm will be better) mean that we will see either an unnatural rise of the proletariat or a totalitarian state? I don’t know- but my current feeling is…no.

    With that being said, I’m still kind of hoping that McCain puts the smack down on Obama at the next debate (why has he been so timid in the last ones?) and either replaces The Palin or gives her a smart ventriloquist.

    And yes, I realize that the same no-experience argument about Palin can be made in favor of Obama. You know what- it’s not her lack of experience that bothers me. It’s everything else. If I had to choose between Obama and Palin running the country, hands down, it would be Obama. Or Biden- that would be better, too. So ultimately, I think that’s what it comes down to for me.


    October 14, 2008 at 10:14 am

  2. 1. His age is a factory for me too, but not nearly as much of an issue as Obama’s terrorist ties, complete inexperience, and lack of independent thought (just take a look at the record). Still, I wish he picked a better running mate. Palin is inexperienced, and there’s SOME likelyhood (small) that she might be president. If Obama wins, we’ll be guaranteed to have a weak (look at his response to the Russia-Georgia conflict) inexperienced president, with socialistic tendencies. I’d rather have Biden than Obama, hands down.

    2. “but I suppose anything but the current paradigm will be better” – Admittedly, I might be reading this wrong, but this seems to imply that your saying that anything is better than it currently is. I recommend some books on free-market economics, and the basics of Communism and Socialism. In fact the danger is not that with these “reforms” that Mother Russia will rear its head in America. The issue is that it severely hurts our economy in if you do these things, which are major departures from the environment that enabled our economy to defeat super powers like communist Russia. I mean, seriously, look at China – these reforms will push us further behind in terms of industrial power. If this doesn’t concern you… I don’t even know where to start. This IS a serious concern. Much more to me than his baggage, his inexperience, or his weakness. These ideas are really, really dangerous. Our economy, and it’s ability to expand is our biggest strength. He’d rather limit that in favor of handouts to people who don’t even pay taxes. And it’s working – promise people a lolly pop, and people will come.

    3. Palin – granted, I don’t know you all that well, but I’ve never seen you so viscous about someone. There are obvious flaws and weaknesses in her knowledge, but she kind of strikes me as Obama at the 2004 DMC. Good at reading off a teleprompter.


    October 14, 2008 at 4:56 pm

  3. 1. There was a time when this blog had a clean format. What happened? (not the content, but the layout)

    2. Bill, I’m glad you’ve come to your senses that there will not be a 2nd Naval Academy graduate inaugurated into the white house. Although, I wouldn’t rely on the media’s crush on Obama to determine the outcome of the presidential race. I almost chose to vote for John McCain because he is predictable. Despite my growing liberal views, I can make better decisions in the pursuit of self interests. For those who find older people as suspects when it comes to taking on important roles in life, you are gravely mistaken. Older people are vital part of our society and I’m not suggesting the need for Walmart greeters. A notable example is all ages of investors trust Warren Buffet, who is six years senior to McCain, with ungodly amounts of money in the Berkshire Hathaway stocks. For those who have been fortunate enough to receive some higher education, you would remember that many of the professors were quite old. Many, if not most, Nobel prize winners were old. As far as the fear of death concern, people can die of natural and unnatural causes at any time. FDR was an effective president, despite all of his ailments that makes McCain’s medical disorders look like a series of minor colds. This example brings us to the next subtopic.

    3. America was fortunate enough to have someone like Harry S. Truman who took the baton from FDR. If McCain becomes president and dies in the office, we would have to put our trust in Nailin Palin. We can only speculate the outcome of her presidency as it is with anyone else. Speculation is simply just speculation. (Is she the star of the upcoming movie Nailin Palin?

    4. On the contrary to Bill’s beliefs, I would not compare Barack Obama’s image with JFK. Obama looks like a nerd who is intelligent enough to talk his way out of getting an ass-beatin. And his dancing skills made Ellen DeGeneres look like the young Michael Jackson. I’m still voting for Obama. My vote comes down to guns and butter. McCain wants to bring the troops home with a victory. I understand that as a veteran and more Americans believe that McCain is a better commander-in-chief candidate. But for the current times, we need to spend more money on butter. Americans can benefit from free economics or capitalism and keynesian economics. In our history, we’ve always had a combination of economic policies with a push-and-pull effect. Tax cuts were needed after the Bill Clinton era, but tax cuts and going to war did not make sense.


    October 15, 2008 at 11:20 am

  4. Palin does infuriate me, but my vehemence comes more from my frustration that my friend Rob has as much of a messianic adoration for her as most people do for Obama.

    As for vicious- not sure about that one, but you can ask Chrissy- I’m a pretty intense person. And the Palin Wave scares the crap out of me. But my intensity is more about the thrill of debate at this point than the actual outcome…truth be told, I’ll be pretty politically apathetic again once this is all said and done. I just enjoy the argument.

    I don’t know much about the economy (me English person), although your tone about it is very interesting. Generally speaking, I realize that Obama’s policies are not be ideal, and that he needs to know more about foreign policy (which, thankfully, Biden will help with). But I’m as confused about what to do with the financial crisis as the next person, and so I do question the short-term validity of free-market economics and deregulation when that is exactly what we’ve done for the past eight years. Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is Clinton and his creation of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Still, it’s been years. What did the Bush administration do to fix that, and what will the McCain administration do that will be different from that?

    People are so freaked out about the economy right now that I think if McCain articulates this clearly and vehemently at the debate tonight, he will still have a shot in this thing. And maybe Palin will step down, and someone else- anyone else- will step in. In the event of one of these two occurrences, I will probably change my vote. Aside from Supreme Court issues, I can’t say I have any issues with Republican policies in general. I don’t like Obama’s big govt naivete, but what can you do…

    iankorean- i like this platform of guns and butter.


    October 15, 2008 at 3:50 pm

  5. Lets do this thing….

    Palin has more executive experience than ANYONE on the current ticket. Interesting detail that seems rather neglected. Senators debate. Governors act. Presidents act. Palin has shown an ability to act, and she cleaned house in Alaska. The media is portraying her as a ditz, and people are being sucked into that portrayal. If a Republican can’t be attacked as mean, they are attacked as dumb.

    Economics are fairly important. There are 2 schools of thought. One is that the pie has a set size. The other is that the pie doesn’t have a set size.

    Socialists and Democrats are fixed pie people. They want to redistribute (tax the rich and give away money to their favored causes) wealth so that everyone has an appropriate slice of the pie according to the ruling elite. This has been proven to fail catastrophically (Soviet Union).

    Republicans and Free market advocates believe that the pie can become bigger and that everyone can live better. This has been proven to work (United States).

    Obama wants to use an economic model that fails repeatedly to make everything “fair”. This should tell you two things. First, he shouldn’t be allowed near any major decision making (anyone who decides that a model that is known to fail can be implemented succesfully by themselves is usually known as a liberal). Second, “fair” doesn’t exist. Everything is a trade off, and all you can do is try to find the least worst trade off.

    On guns and butter. People complain that we spend too much money on guns, not enough on butter. I say we don’t spend enough on guns. Controversial? It depends on how you view the world. Some people think that if only we could negotiate better, we’d all get along. I think that nations act like school children during recess. Weakness, is provocation.

    Either we maintain a very strong standing military and fight battles away from our doorstep, or we will be viewed as a paper tiger and attacked. If this country actually goes to war, you will be shocked. Right now, the military is about 5% of GDP, you could argue that with all the appropriations to fight the wars that we’re at about 7% of GDP. Thats pretty low. WWII – 20% of GDP or so. Cold War? 9%. Thats a little perspective on the guns and butter issue.

    We’re fighting a two front war on a shoestring budget and other nations know it. And they’re taking advantage of the fact that committing to another front would be very difficult without the use of overwhelming force on our behalf. The Army is getting chewed up and will take a lot of money to recapitalize itself.

    Now, with that basic background – here’s you’re guns vs butter problem. If we pull out across the board, or even act like we’re going to, the bad guys will come out of the woodwork. In Iraq, in another few years, maybe we can mostly leave. Maybe. With Afghanistan, it could take decades. The other option is to leave, allow the country to fall into chaos (I’m not talking little chaos, I’m talking mass grave chaos) and then, after another terrorist attack is launched on us, have to go back and do the job right at several times the cost we are paying now. The formula is simple. Win now, or pay many times the cost later.

    We are dealing with fanatics – they inherently do not compute. There are two solutions to them – submit and join them, or kill enough of them to marginalize them. Negotiations are how they buy time to rearm and prepare another strike.

    Tax cuts, by the way, raise gov’t tax revenues. Counterintuitive, but if you look at Reagan’s presidency, gov’t revenue grew every year. Why? Tax cuts lead to a bigger pie all around. When the average joe (this applies to corporations too) has more money in his pocket, he spends more, which amplifies the economy, leading to more jobs, more sales, and ultimatly, more revenue for the gov’t. Obviously, this can only be taken so far, but our current taxes have a rather stifiling effect on everyone.

    As far as the torture issue goes. McCain manned up and took a massive beating for his beliefs. Why is that relevant in a Presidential campaign? It is an indicator. It shows that McCain is willing to fight, be tortured, and risk death for what he believes in. It shows a depth of belief and character.

    Have any of Obama’s actions indicated a similar depth of belief and character? Have they indicated any depth of belief and character? I say no.

    Ultimatly, we are electing a Commander in Chief. The President’s ultimate role is to be a firm guiding hand when the fecal matter hits the rapidly rotating airmover. In a crisis (nuke goes off in LA, bioweapon in Boston, Iran closes the Straights of Hormuz, the economy REALLY tanks) who do you want in charge? Who do you fundamentally trust when all the chips are down?

    – T. Ohhe

    T. Ohhe

    October 15, 2008 at 7:11 pm

  6. BTW – Openfire – Great Post. You’re writing is getting pretty damn good. Maybe there’s something to this law school nonsense afterall.

    – T. Ohhe

    T. Ohhe

    October 15, 2008 at 7:13 pm

  7. ITK – Dumb women swoon at Obama. It’s just that simple.

    Melissa – to me, because one person loves Palin doesn’t mean that I should hate her. I quasi-hate Obama because he’s managed to fool a majority of the population. I’m very pleased you’re spending the time and thought to post here though… I think we have some pretty smart people debating, and I’d love to keep it going.

    T. Ohhe – as usual, you’re right. However, our heritage has taught us to be pretty single minded. I honestly think that there would be some benefits to an Obama presidency.

    1. There is something to be said for a smart, charismatic, well spoken leader. Morale is important.

    2. I honestly do think that it would improve our image overseas among the general constituents.

    The issues with those advantages:

    1. Morale for the sake of morale is a bad thing. If someone makes you feel good while leading you off a cliff, it doesn’t make the end result any better.

    2. Improving our image with the average German isn’t a bad thing. However, his general foreign policy makes us weak in the world order.


    October 15, 2008 at 11:03 pm

  8. The two school of economics share the same goal, which is to expand the frontier production possibilities curve (economic growth), but the theoretical methodology is different. In theory, the free market idea is absolutely beautiful. I wish the invisible hand could guide our economy through any type of financial crisis. Unfortunately, it doesn’t always work. The Keynesian style of government intervention provides societies with another good option.

    Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and the Interim Head of the rescue effort ($700 billion) Neel Kashkari are both Republicans (also both former Goldman Sachs employees) who contributed to President Bush’s campaigns. Federal Chairman Ben Bernanke is an exceptional economist (appointed by Pres. Bush), who happens to be one of the few experts in the study of the Great Depression. Common denominator? They are endorsing government intervention, in attempt to prevent a potential financial meltdown.

    The only proven methods in expanding the curve (economic growth) is through obtaining more resources and technological advances. Tax cuts and stimulus plans to do not expand the economy; rather, it redistributes the available resources (taxes paid, tax revenue given back). The Keynesian theory is not just the use of government interventions, it also has to do with government investments. The previous administrations have spent tax dollars on the infrastructure, which has expanded the economy (ex., highways – encouraged interstate commerce). Here are my ideas for a better America in staying with econ topic by making social investments:

    1. Universal Health Care – Healthier population will lower medical costs in the future, increase in productivity, etc.
    2. Expand Free Higher State Education – An educated population stand a better chance of inducing innovation, potential technological advances, increase efficiency in using our resources, improve employment in white collar jobs, etc. Academy graduates must serve in the military for tuition compensation, how about consider implementing a similar program for those who obtain free state education by serving in the public sector (the military option is not for everyone).
    3. Build massive public transportation systems – create jobs, lower our dependency on foreign energy, improve public health, reduce traffic jams/reduce stress, etc.
    4. Reform immigration – increase immigration for the most important resource (human beings) in any society, immigrants do not take away jobs instead it has led Americans to obtain better jobs, retiring baby boomers means we need more workers and people are having less children, etc.
    5. Expand the vastly understaffed SEC – We can’t expect the SEC, with its limited resources, to monitor and regulate the vastly expanding and complicated financial market.

    Can we match the industrial production capability of China or any other BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) ? Absoloutely not. Been there, done that, surpassed that era. How can we compete with the other developed nations and emerging countries? We can obtain more resources and improve technology without invading another nation is pushing for #2 & #4. I hope everyone has more ideas and no tax cuts until we have a budget surplus.

    On the matter of war, let’s assume McCain wants to go fight everybody, initiate Vietnam conflict II, break the Korean war armistice agreement, deploy Marine Expeditionary Units in every hostile Middle Eastern country, this time really fight Russia in trench-to-trench warfare, whatever. My focused concern is that wars cost money, so raise taxes to fund it instead of raising the deficit. It’s not economics, but it’s the fundamental aspect of accounting. I know you’re a Republican. I grew up in a Republican household, so I understand your position on the two candidates. As a Democrat, I’m aware of my party’s shortcomings and I hope you realize that Republicans are no angles on earth either. The true reality is that either political party can overshoot its agendas, which throws the economy out of balance. President Bush ruled with such a heavy fist on foreign policy, but turned his head away from the runaway financial train (that started before his era). Greed is necessary evil in our market, but so are regulations and redistribution of wealth that keeps the greed in check.


    October 16, 2008 at 10:58 am

  9. My frustration with irrational conservatives does not translate into a desire to “reform” you personally. I am mystified that a lot of people aren’t terrified that she could be President, and I am even more amazed by those who are wooed by her “hockey mom” mantra (Robbie is not alone on that one). But that’s just me on my soapbox and little else.

    T. Ohhe- while I don’t agree with your argument about her executive experience at all (less than two years in The Last Frontier), I’ll give it a rest. As for the ditz argument…I think she did that pretty well without anyone’s help.

    I like the fixed pie analogy, but I think that regulation is a must at this point in time.

    korean- well said.


    October 16, 2008 at 2:10 pm

  10. ITK,

    The problem is that the invisible hand keeps on getting rapped on the knuckles by the metaphorical ruler of the liberal movement. With Obama in power, it’ll be even less consequential.

    I think in times of crisis, government needs to step in. I’m not debating that, and I’m not sure where you were going with that, thought you made some good points. All I’m talking about are presidential economic policies, and promoting communistic tendencies just isn’t the way to to stimulate the economy.

    “Can we match the industrial production capability of China or any other BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) ? Absoloutely not.”

    See T. Ohhe’s post on GDP. In times of SERIOUS trouble, it’s possible. America is a sleeping giant.

    Anything that creates jobs is cool with me, so transportation systems… okay, I’m tracking. Universal Health Care? Nope, I’d rather not. The Soviet Union’s been there – done that, I’ll pass, seeing how well it worked. SEC, I actually agree. Not because we need more regulation, but the market is too big for the SEC right now.

    Melissa – you’re living in DC, and you’re concerned about irrational CONSERVATIVES? That surprises me, considering that town is chalk full of irrational liberals who hero worship Obama. Regarding Ditz arguments, I’ve read about 55 SCOTUS cases as of now, and if you put me on the spot I bet I could only come up with Roe v. Wade, especially qualified with saying that I had to disagree. I guess I’m a Ditz too, guilty as charged.


    October 17, 2008 at 4:05 am

  11. hehe- I’m with you on irrational liberals- there are plenty of them.

    I just call it like I see it. There is currently a lawn sign war being waged down the street. One of the signs was set on fire.

    And again…that comment was not directed at you 🙂


    October 17, 2008 at 5:49 am

  12. ITK – reading through your thoughts, I arrive at the conclusion that we have fundamentally different world views that create the bias we look through.

    You believe that the gov’t is the solution to men’s ills. In other words, most societal problems can be solved through gov’t intervention.

    I believe that the gov’t that governs least, governs best. I believe that the gov’t should be involved with as little as possible. Mostly because the market will come up with better solutions than the gov’t just about every time.

    Universal healthcare – great idea – implementation would be a disaster. Ask yourself a simple question… Why do people from other countries come here to get healthcare more than Americans go to other countries to get health care? The classic pattern of socialized health care is: ruling elite gets the best health care, either by having dedicated hospitals for them or by going abroad for health care. The average Joe has universally sucky health care – talk to anyone who uses socialized health care and find out how long it takes them to get seen for anything, and how long it takes to get treated. The wait times can be, literally, lethal. Yes, our elites do get the best health care, but everyone has access to fairly good health care, even the uninsured.

    Universal education – great idea – our current implementation is in trouble. Can you imagine pouring MORE money into public education? Our schools don’t need more money (they have plenty) they need fewer teacher’s unions that oppose educational responsibility. School choice, school vouchers, good ideas – they allow the market (aka parents) to chose which programs they support. The programs that set their kids up for success by actually educating them will move forward, and teacher’s unions will lose money. Look out into the world and see who opposed standardized testing, school choice and vouchers. The teacher’s unions and the politicians who depended on the teacher’s unions for financial support.

    Socialism is the Kingdom of God without God. Socialism expects everyone to be good to each other for no apparent reason. However much you agree or disagree with Christianity, it at least admits that humans are pretty rough and that we’ll never get along in harmony without divine intervention/the end of the world. Socialism seems to think that everyone will chip in out of the goodness of their hearts. Doesn’t work that way. Every ideal society founded on socialist principles has failed. Communism showcases how much life can suck under socialism as it slow, inevitably fails. China is slowly shifting off of socialism into capitalism. Its still somewhat socialist, and has a lot of bad baggage from its socialist past, but it at least has a really good chance of success now that it is more capitalist. Europe is slowly drifting further into socialism and irrelevancy. More socialist they become, worse their economies get due to lack of competition, the more moribund a state they become. The fundamental premise of socialism is faulty. Thats why it doesn’t work. Give me examples where socialism has improved a country.

    Now, on our financial crisis. This was not the market’s fault. I don’t think SEC oversight had much of anything to do with it. The President wasn’t all that involved either. This was Freddie and Fannie May’s fault. It was the fault of the democratic legislators that blocked efforts to reform the two F’s. The two F’s acted as part of a social program to extend credit to people who traditionally couldn’t get it. There’s a reason some people traditionally can’t get credit – it has everything to do with their credit history. They are risky investments. They are bad investments. These people shouldn’t have gotten loans to buy houses with, period. But – the two F’s implicitly guaranteed those loans, which encouraged banks to make bad loans. Lots of bad loans. Which in turn meant that more people could buy houses. That was what overheated the housing market, leading to the inevitable realization that something was amiss, the housing market slowdown, and then the realization that a lot of supposedly secure securities, rooted in property and backed by people who could pay their mortgages, weren’t. Root cause – bad credit policy that overrode the market policy. Cause of the bad credit policy? Democrats. Protectors of the bad credit policy, Democrats, Barney Frank in specific. This problem was identified several years ago, in ’04 or ’05 I think. Bills were on the floor to rein in the two F’s. And they weren’t passed. The market was monkeywrenched.

    All of this debate, while interesting, doesn’t really add up to a hill of beans. The real question I have to ask is – what are we doing about it? Whatever IT is? What, with your life, are you doing to make the world a slightly better place than you found it? Picking up a piece of litter and putting it in the trash can? Running for Senate? Buying a buddy a beer for no reason? Thats what makes this world go round. Good debate stimulates the mind, but actions are what count in the end. I’ll be bouncing through D.C. in a little while – openfire will put the word out. First beer (or beverage of reasonable choice) is on me. Even if you voted for Obama, I’ll reach across the aisle and hand you a cold one.

    – T. Ohhe

    P.S. Melissa – are the lawn gnomes in on the lawn sign war? We need a stop motion photography or the gnomes rampaging through the signs with torches….

    T. Ohhe

    October 19, 2008 at 11:57 am

  13. I’ll bring the footage if you bring the beer.


    October 19, 2008 at 5:44 pm

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